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Documentaries
[edit]I wanted to add something about the new docuseries "Simone Biles Rising" to this page, but I'm at a loss as to which section would be best. Or perhaps there should be a new section? She does have at least three documentaries/docuseries about her at this point: "Simone Biles Rising" (2024), "Simone vs. Herself" (2021), and "The Simone Biles Story: Courage to Soar" (2018). Busy Crumb (talk) 06:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Nationality vs. Ethnicity
[edit]"Belizean" describes a nationality, not an ethnicity. A Belizean is someone from the country of Belize. An "American" is someone from the U.S. of A., but it says nothing of the person's ethnicity. The country of Belize has people from ethnic groups such as Indigenous/Native, Black, White, Chinese, and so on. A citizen of Belize could be any one of those or other ethicities, or any combination thereof.
The Biles family may understandably use "Belizean" as shorthand in describing family origins, but it is not a description of their ethnicity or ethnicities. 2601:8C3:8681:E150:63B9:8A76:5F0C:BE76 (talk) 22:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Biles family may understandably use "Belizean" to describe their family origins, but it is a term of nationality, not ethnicity, just as "American" is a term of nationality. 2601:8C3:8681:E150:63B9:8A76:5F0C:BE76 (talk) 22:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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As of todays win, she is now tied for the 5th most decorated Olympic gymnast. The link still works and takes you to the page with her new ranking, however it still says she is in 7th on the ranking. 98.191.114.59 (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Already done Hyphenation Expert (talk) 21:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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please change "and she is widely considered one of the greatest gymnasts of all time" to "and she is widely considered the greatest gymnast of all time".
The majority of sources already cited for this line in the article state that she is "the greatest of all time", not that she is "one of" them. It is unclear why the qualifier "one of the" is added in the article. It is especially unclear when similar qualifiers are not present in other athletes pages (like Usain Bolt[1] and Michael Phelps[2]) while these are supported by sources that use the same language. Rosebud8979 (talk) 02:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Already done M.Bitton (talk) 20:08, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usain_Bolt#:~:text=widely%20considered%20to%20be%20the%20greatest%20sprinter%20of%20all%20time
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Phelps#:~:text=He%20is%20widely%20regarded%20as%20the%20greatest%20swimmer%20of%20all%20time%20and%20is%20often%20considered%20to%20be%20one%20of%20the%20greatest%20athletes%20of%20all%20time
Most decorated Gymnast
[edit]Kindly review the "most decorated" Gymnast statement in the beginning. The sources statement is limited to Olympics and World Cups and rightfully so. It may not be true if you include continental medals. Larisa Latynina holds 46 medals vs. Biles 42. 2A02:AA11:F482:E880:196B:29D3:230E:6F3F (talk) 21:48, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- While you do have a point, this is original research. We have to report what the reliable sources say. Regardless, it may be a moot point in the near future, as Biles is now at 43 medals and counting. Nosferattus (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well he is right also remember WP:Blue you don't need sources for obvious facts 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:B014:D48E:4AF:F6AF (talk) 18:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Translation
[edit]Some of the image descriptions when you click the image and the image goes full screen are written in Portuguese. Since this is the English, should I or someone else go translate the Portuguese words and put them below. Thanks in advance Supelrand (talk) 03:39, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- When I say the English, I mean English Wikipedia Supelrand (talk) 03:40, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Most decorated gymnast in history
[edit]She is the most decorated gymnast at the World Championships but not at the Olympics, so it's a bit weird to combine these two events to support that claim. It's better to leave it without mentioning the events as it sounds delusive. Furthermore, that claim has nothing to do with the subsequent one of being "the greatest gymnast of all time". Gymnasts from different periods cannot be compared, and the most neutral wording is "one of the greatest".--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:04, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- It’s pretty consensus she is the GOAT. Sports outlets, journalists, etc. The medals, longevity, dominance, innovation,etc. 2601:8C:4880:5E70:154C:A9C5:D600:CFAB (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are only claims, but definitely not consensus. She hasn’t won more Olympic gold medals than Latynina. She has never won a gold medal on uneven bars in a major tournament (Latynina did win gold medals on all apparatuses). The World Championships took place every four years until the late 1970s, but today they take place every non-Olympic year, which increases the number of tournaments a gymnast can participate in and thereby the chance for winning more medals. The times have changed too much so we cannot compare gymnasts from different periods.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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